tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8763870719324376396.post5560190527418851289..comments2023-06-09T10:31:29.812+01:00Comments on The Liturgical Pimpernel: Cafeteria TraditionalismThe Liturgical Pimpernelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06937184037752964023noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8763870719324376396.post-15078772139799560742010-12-28T16:53:48.413+00:002010-12-28T16:53:48.413+00:00Mr. Quinn,
Just so! Well said. I think that, given...Mr. Quinn,<br />Just so! Well said. I think that, given time, all who love Catholic tradition sincerely will come round to this view in one form or other. Faxit Deus!<br />Fr. CapreolusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8763870719324376396.post-51616413025116195122010-12-28T15:45:54.424+00:002010-12-28T15:45:54.424+00:00I don't think the charge of Cafeteria Traditio...I don't think the charge of Cafeteria Traditionalism is apt at all. If you look at the criticisms of the various reforms, there is one common denominator and that is Bugnini. I propose reverting to the pre-1955 liturgy, then undertaking a wise, patient and faithful reform.Scott Quinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8763870719324376396.post-89801447967844048052010-12-28T13:04:08.558+00:002010-12-28T13:04:08.558+00:00I think Tornelli establishes quite a lot of strawm...I think Tornelli establishes quite a lot of strawmen in this piece, such as imputing the view to all traditionalists that the Council should be abolished. Even the SSPX have always insisted that Vatican II was a valid ecumenical council and their concerns are largely focused on religious liberty and ecumenism. Indeed more mainstream traditionalist criticisms of the Novus Ordo often invoke the Council's constitution on the liturgy (Sacrosanctum Concilium) to advance their case. My own prediction is that the Second Vatican Council will be largely forgotten about in 30 or more years and will simply become irrelevant. It's already quite noticeable that the current pontiff hardly ever quotes from the Council's texts, very much unlike his predecessor. To a large extent, Vatican II has already become irrelevant.shanehttp://lxoa.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8763870719324376396.post-81584011975943225442010-12-28T12:28:44.148+00:002010-12-28T12:28:44.148+00:00Who created and run the caffeteria? Answer: the B...Who created and run the caffeteria? Answer: the Bishops. Some Bishops provide a full menu while others serve nothing but spinach. Trads would like a little meat and potatoes? <br /><br />When the hungry show up for their spiritual fare theb problem, as I see it, is not that they pick and choose what they are willing to eat but that all the food there is is spoiled. So if they try to pick the least bad or hunger after good oldfashione fare, A.Tornelli callls them names. He should go after the caffeteria operators not the reluctant customers. My 2 cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8763870719324376396.post-74859931309278323472010-12-28T10:39:35.919+00:002010-12-28T10:39:35.919+00:00except the Bishiops aren't allowing the Mass o...except the Bishiops aren't allowing the Mass of All Time [hardly extraordinary!] in any serious way, the Orcadian Monks have been left out in the cold by the Bishop in Aberdeen, so Trads know that the Bishops are cold shouldering them and the Pope. After years of exile for staying faithful to the Popes and keeping alive Catholicism in the face of outright heresy and Guitar-masses, i think most Trads are just wary, because if they all "came over" likes the Sons of the Holy Redeemer, they too would be left out in the cold by Bishops who treat the Tridentine Mass as if it were an affront to the Church and not the gem in her crown!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com